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manual, first steps

claus82
how do you think about the work I've done so far?
Honestly I don't have much time, but I really want to cooperate

I was about ordering data for print section but I can't find a menu, look at the picture, help is needed!!!


Immagine.jpg




5 PAGES OF MANUAL HERE
manual.pdf


see ya!!!
...the problem is not the problem, the problem is your aptitude about the problem...
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Re: manual, first steps

Pere
Hi, seems you are two at the same task, maybe you should coordinate your works, see
http://forum.librecad.org/LibreCAD-User-Manual-New-Content-1-17-13-tp5707420.html
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Re: manual, first steps

claus82
This post was updated on .
Hi pere, I have already looked at what Bob has done, I am working in other bars... isn't it?


P.S. Considering the problem about the picture that i attached at the beginning of this topic, I solved it. The tool option was simply not selected, so that was the solution it was so stupid, select it, I posted the solution just in case of memory lack like happened to me ;)
...the problem is not the problem, the problem is your aptitude about the problem...
Bob
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Bob
Hi Claus,

Looked at your manual and it looks good. Your manual covers areas different from mine so everyone benefits from both our work. Before I retired from Ford Motor Co. I did CAD training and my manual is written from a teaching standpoint with emphasis on basics. I love that finally both of us are giving LibreCAD some Instructional documentation that has from what I understand, been lacking. Your doing a good job and I think the LibreCAD community will learn from both of us. Also, I am always willing to work with someone on a manual.

Keep up the good work,

Bob
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Re: manual, first steps

claus82
Hi bob, honestly I have been examining your manual just to avoid to explain your same topics, even your kiss method is good!
Anyway, probably at the end of our work we should mix our works in order to have a good result ;)
See ya my friend!
...the problem is not the problem, the problem is your aptitude about the problem...
Bob
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Re: manual, first steps

Bob
Hi Claus,

I agree 100% to combine in the end.

Have a good day my friend,

Bob
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Re: manual, first steps

claus82
This post was updated on .
Dear Bob, unfortunately I have alredy encountered a problem... I usually use the POLYLINE command to generate a polyline, but I have no ideas about what are nodes... so, maybe you are the right person to ask, maybe our friend Rallaz...  
Anyway, I just asked myself the meaning of nodes, can anyone help me?


p.s. that is what I have done so far manual.pdf 
as I repeat, I need a little help concerning nodes!
...the problem is not the problem, the problem is your aptitude about the problem...
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Re: manual, first steps

Rallaz
Hello Claus,

A polyline is a sequence of vertexs (nodes) connected by a segment with bulge (curvature). If the bulge is 0 then it is a a straight line. Bulge are tangent of included arc / 4.
If the polyline are closed then are added a segment form last to first vertex.

Note that if the last and the first vertex coincides in space the polyline is open although, visually, seems closed.

Bob & Claus:
great work!!

Rallaz
Bob
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Re: manual, first steps

Bob
Hi Rallaz,

Just an observation by me in Zoom. On the autozoom I can remember that in C3P when you brought the curser into the work area and held the left mouse button down, when you moved the curser up it zoomed into the drawing and when you moved it down it zoomed out. I was wondering if you plan to do that for autozoom here?

Claus,

We never worked much with Polylines in C3P even though the feature was in the program. The advantages of the polyline nodes was that you could edit and change the line between the nodes.
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Rallaz
I do not know C3P, I am AutoCAD (ACAD ) user in my work.

moving cursor up-down to zoom in-out in ACAD are "real-time zoom" and LC "autozoom" is like ACAD "zoom extents"

In LC "autozoom" is the higher zoom scale showing the whole (visible) drawing
Tip: double-click with mouse middle-button executes "autozoom"
Bob
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Re: manual, first steps

Bob
Hi Rallaz.

Ok, now I understand what you were going for in LC autozoom. Would be nice to have the real time zoom too.
I also know that C3P had the Crosshairs in the work area like the big res crosshairs in LC. The difference in C3P was the crosshairs were labeled X and Y to reflect the coordinates. Might want to maybe add something like that in LC as well even though I have created a help layer showing this in the manual. This would make it easier for a beginner to remember the X and Y coordinate directions.

Take care my friend.
Bob
ras
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Re: manual, first steps -- errata

ras
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page 2 last bullet second bar: s/b paste

      not errata, but what do the last 3 operations (e.g. cut, copy, paste) do?
      they don't seem to operate on drawing operations (like undo and redo)
      [at least that is what i seem to think] on my odd-ball build lc 2.0.0alpha3
      for solaris10 sparc crafted by opencsw.

page 3 just a comment on wording when describing the layer box. i would
change the word 'relative' to 'associated' and rephrase a bit

from

     this show/removes
      the relative layer

to

    icon to show/hide
     associated layer


from
    this freeze the relative layer
to
    locks/unlocks changes to
       the associated layer

from
    this print or not
    the entities relative
    to the layer

to (the experts might have a better description of what this really is doing)
    enable/disable printing of
    untrimmed constuction lines
    and help layer lines


page 4 top

reword the first paragraph:

to
The pulldown selections above allows one to change attributes to drawn lines
overriding the default values of the layer. The pulldowns apply to these line
attributes: line color line width and line type.

Attributes changed this way will be applied to all subsequent entities created on this layer.


page 4 -- mid page

The last two icons set the relative zero and lock its position.

it might be a good place to briefly describe the relative zero and why locking it
might be a good thing ...



i have yet to play with hatches, so that's about all there is for now from me.


thanks to everyone writing about librecad from a novice users viewpoint
now if i could only find a novice tutorial on
     'cad layout methods and techniques for the non-designer'
and i'll be set ...

aloha

ras