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dg1727

Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

Hello,

The options on the LibreCAD website for downloading in .deb format for Linux seem to be:

[1]. Download from the Ubuntu repositories, which are updated every 6 months.
[2]. Download a daily development build.
[3]. Download from Debian unstable (Debian Sid), which presently has 1.0.0rc1, whereas the Windows and MacOS X folders on SourceForge have 1.0.0rc3.
[4]. Download an RPM and use the "alien" utility to convert to .deb format.

Would it be possible to add a PPA (maybe ppa:librecad-dev/librecad-releases or similar) that gets a new .deb package each time a LibreCAD version is released in Windows, MacOS X, and RPM formats?

This would be more up-to-date than [1] and [3], yet more stable (for non-developers) than [2], and has two advantages over [4] for .deb users: the "alien" step wouldn't be needed, plus users would be automatically notified of new releases.

Lisandro D. N. Pérez Meyer

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

On Lun 10 Oct 2011 13:30:13 usted escribió:

> Hello,
>
> The options on the LibreCAD website for downloading in .deb format for
> Linux seem to be:
>
> [1]. Download from the Ubuntu repositories, which are updated every 6
> months.
> [2]. Download a daily development build.
> [3]. Download from Debian unstable (Debian Sid), which presently has
> 1.0.0rc1, whereas the Windows and MacOS X folders on SourceForge have
> 1.0.0rc3.
> [4]. Download an RPM and use the "alien" utility to convert to .deb
> format.
>
> Would it be possible to add a PPA (maybe ppa:librecad-dev/librecad-releases
> or similar) that gets a new .deb package each time a LibreCAD version is
> released in Windows, MacOS X, and RPM formats?
>
> This would be more up-to-date than [1] and [3], yet more stable (for
> non-developers) than [2], and has two advantages over [4] for .deb users:
> the "alien" step wouldn't be needed, plus users would be automatically
> notified of new releases.

Debian (and thus Ubuntu) packages are a little behind schedule due to some
licensing problems. We are working on it, and please be sure that once we fix
them we will do our best to stay up-to-date.

Kinds regards, Lisandro.

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Lisandro D. N. Pérez Meyer

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

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On Lun 10 Oct 2011 13:40:35 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer escribió:
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> Debian (and thus Ubuntu) packages are a little behind schedule due to some
> licensing problems. We are working on it, and please be sure that once we
> fix them we will do our best to stay up-to-date.
>
> Kinds regards, Lisandro.

I just uploaded rc3 to Debian unstable. Ubuntu will surely follow in some
days.

Kinds regards, Lisandro.

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dg1727

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 23:59:00 -0400 "perezmeyer [via LibreCAD]" <ml-
[hidden email]> wrote:

>On Lun 10 Oct 2011 13:40:35 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
>escribió:
>[snip]
>> Debian (and thus Ubuntu) packages are a little behind schedule
>> due to some
>> licensing problems. We are working on it, and please be sure
>> that once we
>> fix them we will do our best to stay up-to-date.
>
>I just uploaded rc3 to Debian unstable. Ubuntu will surely follow
>in some days.

Hi Lisandro,

Thank you for uploading rc3; that is great.

I didn't know of the licensing problems. You don't have to tell me
the details of them, but I would be interested if you could make a
forum posting (this thread or another) when the problems are fixed.

maqifrnswa

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:29 AM, dg1727 [via LibreCAD]
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> I didn't know of the licensing problems. You don't have to tell me
> the details of them, but I would be interested if you could make a
> forum posting (this thread or another) when the problems are fixed.

The license problems should be fixed now.

LibreCAD is a fork of QCad Community Edition. The license was a little
ambiguous as to what was GPL or not, and the author of QCad clarified
the license. The help files and the fonts were not GPL, so we had to
remove them with our own custom made fonts (thanks Rallaz!)

However, we don't have a replacement for help files yet. That will be
for a future forum posting/project. RvT, the project
manager/maintainer, will probably post a call-for-help in making the
documentation which will be free and freely distributable. Until then,
we'll probably just point people to:
http://www.qcad.org/qcad/manual_reference/

Ries, how about clicking "manual" will open a browser at this address:
http://www.qcad.org/qcad/manual_reference/

?

~Scott

dg1727

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

In reply to this post by Lisandro D. N. Pérez Meyer

When Debian Sid (unstable) is in my active repositories list, I am notified that over 700 updates are available, which I don't want to install. As a result, I keep Debian Sid disabled in my repositories list most of the time.

The current LibreCAD, 1.0.0rc3, has not propagated to my present Ubuntu release (11.04 Natty) yet, and it may be a long time until that happens (if ever).

So my procedure for installing or upgrading LibreCAD (other than option [4] in my original posting) is as follows:

1. Open Synaptic
2. Add Debian Sid
3. Click Reload and wait for "Rebuilding search index" to finish (about a 2.5-minute process in total)
4. The actual installation (I am not listing the time for it, since it would be the same from any repository)
5. Remove Debian Sid from active repositories
6. Click Reload and wait for "Rebuilding search index" to finish (about a 1.25-minute process)

I would rather not wait the 3.75 minutes (I could do something else during this time, but most things would take longer than 2.5 minutes, so I would probably get interrupted while trying to concentrate.)

Maybe I could write a script to automate the install, but is every user supposed to do this for LibreCAD?

My present install procedure, as with option [4] from the earlier post, has the disadvantage that I have to monitor librecad.org in order to tell when a new version is available. A package repository would be checked by my package management software daily, and I would get an automatic notification of each new version.

Maybe the suggested PPA (see subject line) can still be considered.

Thanks in advance for comment.

dxli

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

Hello,

I tested it once that you can download the LibreCAD deb packages from debian sid:

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=librecad&searchon=names&suite=unstable&section=all

and install them on debian testing (now sure about stable) by dpkg -i

Yes, I would love to see a PPA repository for LibreCAD, and hopefully, including the git master branch.

Thanks,

Dongxu Li

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:44 PM, dg1727 [via LibreCAD] <[hidden email]> wrote:

When Debian Sid (unstable) is in my active repositories list, I am notified that over 700 updates are available, which I don't want to install. As a result, I keep Debian Sid disabled in my repositories list most of the time.

The current LibreCAD, 1.0.0rc3, has not propagated to my present Ubuntu release (11.04 Natty) yet, and it may be a long time until that happens (if ever).

So my procedure for installing or upgrading LibreCAD (other than option [4] in my original posting) is as follows:

1. Open Synaptic
2. Add Debian Sid
3. Click Reload and wait for "Rebuilding search index" to finish (about a 2.5-minute process in total)
4. The actual installation (I am not listing the time for it, since it would be the same from any repository)
5. Remove Debian Sid from active repositories
6. Click Reload and wait for "Rebuilding search index" to finish (about a 1.25-minute process)

I would rather not wait the 3.75 minutes (I could do something else during this time, but most things would take longer than 2.5 minutes, so I would probably get interrupted while trying to concentrate.)

Maybe I could write a script to automate the install, but is every user supposed to do this for LibreCAD?

My present install procedure, as with option [4] from the earlier post, has the disadvantage that I have to monitor librecad.org in order to tell when a new version is available. A package repository would be checked by my package management software daily, and I would get an automatic notification of each new version.

Maybe the suggested PPA (see subject line) can still be considered.

Thanks in advance for comment.

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maqifrnswa

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

librecad stable PPA make sense. I will put one together, probably at:
https://launchpad.net/~librecad-dev/+archive/librecad-stable

dxli is correct, you just need to download the individual .debs.

If you want automated upgrades, you also could use apt-pinning to pin
librecad to debian unstable but take the rest from Ubuntu. However, I
appreciate the easiness of just adding a librecad-stable PPA.

dxli: there already is a PPA of LibreCAD for the git master branch:
https://launchpad.net/~librecad-dev/+archive/librecad-daily

That's where my build failure logs come from.

maqifrnswa

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

In reply to this post by dxli

Ubuntu oeneric ppa is set up:
https://launchpad.net/~librecad-dev/+archive/librecad-stable

dg1727

Re: Add a PPA for releases in Linux .deb format?

I have installed LibreCAD from this PPA. Thank you very much!