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janseromero

Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

Hi Folks!

I would do like to help if is possible.

I think to help to integrate object with database. For example a object line to MySQL, I don't know about If already this functions is working or in developement. I think is hard to do, but... not impossible like another CAD Systems.

So, thanks a lot!

[]s,
Janse Romero

R. van Twisk

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

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Janse,

yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/GSoC_2012

However if we want to implement this properly we need to create a new 2D- kernel and a proper API for entity manipulation, addition and querying, we hope to find somebody with enough knowledge to create such a thing.

The storage backend can then be made pluggable to store entities in various methods.

One note though, MySQL wouldn't not be a good tool for storing there because there geospatial engine is limited in InnoDB

(MyISAM is not recommended here for your drawings). And we need geospatial capabilities to properly query large datasets.

Ries

On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:44 PM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Folks!

I would do like to help if is possible.

I think to help to integrate object with database. For example a object line to MySQL, I don't know about If already this functions is working or in developement. I think is hard to do, but... not impossible like another CAD Systems.

So, thanks a lot!

[]s,
Janse Romero

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janseromero

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

Hi Ries!

I a beginner in this project, I don't know yet how it persiste a entity DB. But, What I thought was to create a handle inside the entity, and to refer it to a database with metadata information.

For ex.: I have a line, but this line is a wall with many characteristic and typical information, as well as White, made by stone and cement.

Or We have a point, and this point means a pole of light, and his cost was $xxx,xx.

Did you get it ? In this case, no matter if the database is a GIS or not, and if is a MySQL or not, the important is to connect a entity to a data dictionary.

How to ? Save a handle attribute in the entity and making a pluging read that one and to connect to some DB and show which meta data (on data dictionary) is that.

Sorry, If I couldn't be clear.

Regards,

Janse Romero

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Janse,

yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/GSoC_2012

However if we want to implement this properly we need to create a new 2D- kernel and a proper API for entity manipulation, addition and querying, we hope to find somebody with enough knowledge to create such a thing.

The storage backend can then be made pluggable to store entities in various methods.

One note though, MySQL wouldn't not be a good tool for storing there because there geospatial engine is limited in InnoDB

(MyISAM is not recommended here for your drawings). And we need geospatial capabilities to properly query large datasets.

Ries

On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:44 PM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Folks!

I would do like to help if is possible.

I think to help to integrate object with database. For example a object line to MySQL, I don't know about If already this functions is working or in developement. I think is hard to do, but... not impossible like another CAD Systems.

So, thanks a lot!

[]s,
Janse Romero

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R. van Twisk

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

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Janse,

I see what you are talking about but then we talk about BIM (Building Information Modeling/Management http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_information_modeling).

And I think that LibreCAD is not ready yet for BIM because of the way LibreCAD works.

For this to work we really need a proper 2D kernel that can handle both simple and complex geometries.

For example you need to beable to answer questions as 'how many lights are in there room',

or 'How many lights are in these area', But also think about other questions, not buildings

but pipelines underground or fencing work.

But also when you zoom in and out of the screen it needs to be possible to only fetch these entities

from the DB that are displayed on the screen and you cannot do this without a DB that

has geospatial capabilities.

Sure you can hack in some DB work into LibreCAD but then it would be a one-off project that

just a hand people would use and would die out because it's not maintained anymore.

Ries

On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:57 AM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Ries!

I a beginner in this project, I don't know yet how it persiste a entity DB. But, What I thought was to create a handle inside the entity, and to refer it to a database with metadata information.

For ex.: I have a line, but this line is a wall with many characteristic and typical information, as well as White, made by stone and cement.
Or We have a point, and this point means a pole of light, and his cost was $xxx,xx.

Did you get it ? In this case, no matter if the database is a GIS or not, and if is a MySQL or not, the important is to connect a entity to a data dictionary.

How to ? Save a handle attribute in the entity and making a pluging read that one and to connect to some DB and show which meta data (on data dictionary) is that.

Sorry, If I couldn't be clear.

Regards,

Janse Romero

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD] <<a href="x-msg://2834/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5521889&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:

Janse,

yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/GSoC_2012

However if we want to implement this properly we need to create a new 2D- kernel and a proper API for entity manipulation, addition and querying, we hope to find somebody with enough knowledge to create such a thing.

The storage backend can then be made pluggable to store entities in various methods.

One note though, MySQL wouldn't not be a good tool for storing there because there geospatial engine is limited in InnoDB

(MyISAM is not recommended here for your drawings). And we need geospatial capabilities to properly query large datasets.

Ries

On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:44 PM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Folks!

I would do like to help if is possible.

I think to help to integrate object with database. For example a object line to MySQL, I don't know about If already this functions is working or in developement. I think is hard to do, but... not impossible like another CAD Systems.

So, thanks a lot!

[]s,
Janse Romero

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janseromero

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

Now, I understood you totally. So, I will study more the librecad codes.

And thanks a lot for your attention.

[]s,

Janse Romero

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:20 AM, R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Janse,

I see what you are talking about but then we talk about BIM (Building Information Modeling/Management http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_information_modeling).

And I think that LibreCAD is not ready yet for BIM because of the way LibreCAD works.

For this to work we really need a proper 2D kernel that can handle both simple and complex geometries.

For example you need to beable to answer questions as 'how many lights are in there room',
or 'How many lights are in these area', But also think about other questions, not buildings

but pipelines underground or fencing work.
But also when you zoom in and out of the screen it needs to be possible to only fetch these entities
from the DB that are displayed on the screen and you cannot do this without a DB that

has geospatial capabilities.

Sure you can hack in some DB work into LibreCAD but then it would be a one-off project that
just a hand people would use and would die out because it's not maintained anymore.

Ries

On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:57 AM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Ries!

I a beginner in this project, I don't know yet how it persiste a entity DB. But, What I thought was to create a handle inside the entity, and to refer it to a database with metadata information.

For ex.: I have a line, but this line is a wall with many characteristic and typical information, as well as White, made by stone and cement.
Or We have a point, and this point means a pole of light, and his cost was $xxx,xx.

Did you get it ? In this case, no matter if the database is a GIS or not, and if is a MySQL or not, the important is to connect a entity to a data dictionary.

How to ? Save a handle attribute in the entity and making a pluging read that one and to connect to some DB and show which meta data (on data dictionary) is that.

Sorry, If I couldn't be clear.

Regards,

Janse Romero

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD] <<a href="x-msg://2834/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5521889&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:

Janse,

yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/GSoC_2012

However if we want to implement this properly we need to create a new 2D- kernel and a proper API for entity manipulation, addition and querying, we hope to find somebody with enough knowledge to create such a thing.

The storage backend can then be made pluggable to store entities in various methods.

One note though, MySQL wouldn't not be a good tool for storing there because there geospatial engine is limited in InnoDB

(MyISAM is not recommended here for your drawings). And we need geospatial capabilities to properly query large datasets.

Ries

On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:44 PM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Folks!

I would do like to help if is possible.

I think to help to integrate object with database. For example a object line to MySQL, I don't know about If already this functions is working or in developement. I think is hard to do, but... not impossible like another CAD Systems.

So, thanks a lot!

[]s,
Janse Romero

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dxli

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

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Hi Ries,

I still think support for native SVG file format as interesting, and I think we can add it to the idea list.

I think you and rallaz understand CAD file formats better than I, so, it's up to your decision.

Regards,

Dongxu

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:31 AM, R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Janse,

yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/GSoC_2012

However if we want to implement this properly we need to create a new 2D- kernel and a proper API for entity manipulation, addition and querying, we hope to find somebody with enough knowledge to create such a thing.

The storage backend can then be made pluggable to store entities in various methods.

One note though, MySQL wouldn't not be a good tool for storing there because there geospatial engine is limited in InnoDB

(MyISAM is not recommended here for your drawings). And we need geospatial capabilities to properly query large datasets.

Ries

On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:44 PM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Folks!

I would do like to help if is possible.

I think to help to integrate object with database. For example a object line to MySQL, I don't know about If already this functions is working or in developement. I think is hard to do, but... not impossible like another CAD Systems.

So, thanks a lot!

[]s,
Janse Romero

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R. van Twisk

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

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Dongxu,

I think we are going off topic here, but the need for SVG is not that high for a CAD tool.

And ideally I would like to see this working through the plugin interface. For DWG I am

working on that and realized that we need to extend the plugin interface to support this functions.

So priority lies in the plugin interface I think :)

Ries

On Feb 28, 2012, at 9:40 AM, dxli [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Ries,

I still think support for native SVG file format as interesting, and I think we can add it to the idea list.

I think you and rallaz understand CAD file formats better than I, so, it's up to your decision.

Regards,

Dongxu

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:31 AM, R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD] <<a href="x-msg://2895/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5522011&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:

Janse,

yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/GSoC_2012

However if we want to implement this properly we need to create a new 2D- kernel and a proper API for entity manipulation, addition and querying, we hope to find somebody with enough knowledge to create such a thing.

The storage backend can then be made pluggable to store entities in various methods.

One note though, MySQL wouldn't not be a good tool for storing there because there geospatial engine is limited in InnoDB

(MyISAM is not recommended here for your drawings). And we need geospatial capabilities to properly query large datasets.

Ries

On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:44 PM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Folks!

I would do like to help if is possible.

I think to help to integrate object with database. For example a object line to MySQL, I don't know about If already this functions is working or in developement. I think is hard to do, but... not impossible like another CAD Systems.

So, thanks a lot!

[]s,
Janse Romero

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fernandohildebrand

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

Wow! Cool hardcode aditions... Thats the thing about open source...

Personaly, i think user base request of features should be considered more fondely, after all, theyre the ones to get to really use it.

2012/2/28 R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD] <[hidden email]>

Dongxu,

I think we are going off topic here, but the need for SVG is not that high for a CAD tool.
And ideally I would like to see this working through the plugin interface. For DWG I am

working on that and realized that we need to extend the plugin interface to support this functions.
So priority lies in the plugin interface I think :)

Ries

On Feb 28, 2012, at 9:40 AM, dxli [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Ries,

I still think support for native SVG file format as interesting, and I think we can add it to the idea list.

I think you and rallaz understand CAD file formats better than I, so, it's up to your decision.

Regards,

Dongxu

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:31 AM, R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD] <<a href="x-msg://2895/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5522011&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:

Janse,

yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/GSoC_2012

However if we want to implement this properly we need to create a new 2D- kernel and a proper API for entity manipulation, addition and querying, we hope to find somebody with enough knowledge to create such a thing.

The storage backend can then be made pluggable to store entities in various methods.

One note though, MySQL wouldn't not be a good tool for storing there because there geospatial engine is limited in InnoDB

(MyISAM is not recommended here for your drawings). And we need geospatial capabilities to properly query large datasets.

Ries

On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:44 PM, janseromero [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hi Folks!

I would do like to help if is possible.

I think to help to integrate object with database. For example a object line to MySQL, I don't know about If already this functions is working or in developement. I think is hard to do, but... not impossible like another CAD Systems.

So, thanks a lot!

[]s,
Janse Romero

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hsd8

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Hello everyone!!

You may add to GSoC list , "ttf font support". I'm not specialist , and don't know what the need to do this.

Valber

src.lgg.ru

28.02.2012, 17:31, "R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD]" <[hidden email]>:

Janse,
yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/GSoC_2012
However if we want to implement this properly we need to create a new 2D- kernel and a proper API for entity manipulation, addition and querying, we hope to find somebody with enough knowledge to create such a thing.
The storage backend can then be made pluggable to store entities in various methods.
One note though, MySQL wouldn't not be a good tool for storing there because there geospatial engine is limited in InnoDB
(MyISAM is not recommended here for your drawings). And we need geospatial capabilities to properly query large datasets.
Ries
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R. van Twisk

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

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Valber,

we can support ttf through the ttf2llf tool.

TTF has currently limited use though because of CAD..

Ries

On Feb 28, 2012, at 3:12 PM, hsd8 [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hello everyone!!

You may add to GSoC list , "ttf font support". I'm not specialist , and don't know what the need to do this.

Valber
src.lgg.ru

28.02.2012, 17:31, "R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD]" <<a href="x-msg://3238/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5523093&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>:
Janse,
yesterday I put this up on the GSOC page : <a href="x-msg://3238/" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">click here.
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hsd8

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

Hello again! I converted the font to llf, but I don't understand how to fill it.

screenshot http://src.lgg.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/LibreCAD_ttf2lff.png

our article about russian open gov.standard font : http://src.lgg.ru/2012/03/gost-type-%D0%B0-0/

Valber

29.02.2012, 00:28, "R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD]" <[hidden email]>:

Valber,
we can support ttf through the ttf2llf tool.
TTF has currently limited use though because of CAD..
Ries

On Feb 28, 2012, at 3:12 PM, hsd8 [via LibreCAD] wrote:

Hello everyone!!

You may add to GSoC list , "ttf font support". I'm not specialist , and don't know what the need to do this.

Valber
src.lgg.ru

28.02.2012, 17:31, "R. van Twisk [via LibreCAD]" <<a href="x-msg://3238/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5523093&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>:
Janse,
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dxli

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

hi,

the easiest way is to search the *.lff files installed by librecad, and copy your lff file there (with root/admin access).

librecad should be able to use it.

the same way works for lff in source code folder.

thanks,

dxli

On Mar 9, 2012 12:21 PM, "hsd8 [via LibreCAD]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello again! I converted the font to llf, but I don't understand how to fill it.

screenshot " target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">click here.
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hsd8

Re: Getting Stated! Would like to help a bit

The font and symbols look like outline, how can I get rid of the black hollows inside the letters?

http://src.lgg.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/LibreCAD_ttf2lff.png

09.03.2012, 21:59, "dxli [via LibreCAD]" <[hidden email]>:

hi,
the easiest way is to search the *.lff files installed by librecad, and copy your lff file there (with root/admin access).
librecad should be able to use it.
the same way works for lff in source code folder.
thanks,
dxli
On Mar 9, 2012 12:21 PM, "hsd8 [via LibreCAD]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello again! I converted the font to llf, but I don't understand how to fill it.

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