ravas wrote
- No tooltips, so until you know what the top level menu icons are you have to go to the text tool menu to find out.
I never thought about that, and it was never suggested in the testing phase.
Guess, it's just I am a newcomer. After a while the icons will be known anyway, so it's only an issue during early use.
ravas wrote
-- for complex drawings where you are doing multiple lines, circles ... (e.g. when creating basic construction layers) and particularly when modifying it's more clicks and less efficient. The categories toolbar (in my mind) is for tools we don't use often.
The primary aspect of the update is the custom toolbar / menu system.
With custom menus you don't even need to leave the drawing area.
https://github.com/LibreCAD/LibreCAD/wiki/Widgets!! Create docked toolbar layout save/load function I considered doing this... but couldn't find the motivation.
Hadn't spotted these. Been and had a quick play. Custom toolbars is slightly odd, in that they appear but you can't hide/view them as you can built ins. That said, If I wanted to generate the second level toolbars, I could do it this way and it would be close. - If you had a load of them it would be like back in the 80's where you had loads of picks on the digitising tablet (Think Pr1me Medusa or even CADDS). Yes, sad to say, I've been around IT that long.
The custom menus shows a lot more promise for me tho'. While it doesn't reduce the no of clicks per se. it feels a lot more natural and it's speedier because as you say it is in situ. I really like this and for the commands I'll use a lot I can construct something appropriate.
If that's your way forward I guess that the challenge is how to add more so that you can get to them with one command (and how many do people really need).
Submenus would be one way, but not that efficient I think as it's actually two selections.
k/b mouse combo is the way you're currently using.
I guess mouse buttons is another either
purely top of mouse buttons
e.g. middle button (a lot of mouse drivers can be made to simulate this with left//right together or click of the scroll wheel), right double click (if that can be trapped) etc.
or side buttons if they can be distinguished from k/b keys.
How many - I can see use for 2, possibly 3 but more would probably just become confusing anyway.
So thank you for coming back to me swiftly and custom menus will work for me.

re. main menu stuff, just my ten-pennth view. I can learn something new like that as it's infrequently used and doesn't affect the detail functions. At least it's not an Office Ribbon