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mch

Feb 19, 2016; 9:23pm

From France...

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Hello,

I used to work professionally with autocad 12, fourteen years ago. Then I got married, I moved to France and changed to another job. Now, after all this time I'm trying to draw a very simple plan of our house... I can remember the commands but I'm having a hard time to draw...
Where can I give "nicknames" to the commands so I do not have to write them all?
Can I make the command line active without clicking with the mouse on it? (I mean with the keyboard)...
These are my first two questions, I feel there will be a lot more, thank you in advance for your help!

dxli

Feb 19, 2016; 10:45pm

Re: From France...

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hi mch,

have a look at command aliases:

http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/LibreCAD_Tips_and_Techniques

basically, you can define your own command aliases by editing the current/default ones.

mch wrote

Hello,

I used to work professionally with autocad 12, fourteen years ago. Then I got married, I moved to France and changed to another job. Now, after all this time I'm trying to draw a very simple plan of our house... I can remember the commands but I'm having a hard time to draw...
Where can I give "nicknames" to the commands so I do not have to write them all?
Can I make the command line active without clicking with the mouse on it? (I mean with the keyboard)...
These are my first two questions, I feel there will be a lot more, thank you in advance for your help!

Christian

Feb 20, 2016; 2:12pm

Re: From France...

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Bonjour mch,
You wrote: "Can I make the command line active without clicking with the mouse on it? (I mean with the keyboard)... ", their are two answers to this:
1- just press the Space Bar
2-Ctrl+M.
I recently started with libreCAD and with CAD altogether so I can understand the frustration, if I may I suggest you read and follow the following tutorial: http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/LibreCAD_users_Manual.

Bonne journée,

Christian

mch

Feb 20, 2016; 4:05pm

Re: From France...

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In reply to this post by dxli

Thank you dxli,
With the aliases I was already used to I'm sure it will be easier to get used to Libre Cad.

and thank you Christian,
I spent lots of time yesterday clicking everywhere to find the shortcut to the command line: the space bar is perfect!
and thank you for the link to the tutorial...

and... one more question:

When I use the keyboard to specify the (x,y) or @ (x,y) it would be easier if the point in the keypad was considered like the "coma" in the main pad. Is it possible?

I wish you a nice weekend and I want to thank you again for your help: it's not easy to get back to cad after 14 years away, but I'm glad to do it :)

Christian

Feb 20, 2016; 9:35pm

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Sorry mch,
I tried replacing point to coma on my computer configuration panel, but it does not help. Maybe the specialists will know if there is a solution. So far, I must say, I only used the icons as I get a little lost with command line.

Regards,
Christian

dxli

Feb 20, 2016; 9:36pm

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not sure I got what you mean.

when you type 1.2, and you would like to have it accepted as 1, 2 (as two numbers are needed for coordinates anyway).

mch wrote

When I use the keyboard to specify the (x,y) or @ (x,y) it would be easier if the point in the keypad was considered like the "coma" in the main pad. Is it possible?

mch

Feb 20, 2016; 9:53pm

Re: From France...

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Yes, exactly, I wish I could use the point in the keypad, instead of the " , " coma. The point that is between "0" and "enter"

El 20/2/2016 10:36 p. m., "dxli [via LibreCAD]" <[hidden email]> escribió:

not sure I got what you mean.

when you type 1.2, and you would like to have it accepted as 1, 2 (as two numbers are needed for coordinates anyway).

mch wrote

When I use the keyboard to specify the (x,y) or @ (x,y) it would be easier if the point in the keypad was considered like the "coma" in the main pad. Is it possible?

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dxli

Feb 20, 2016; 9:58pm

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a quick implementation is easy, but I am worried by potential side effects.

If you can build from source, I can implement this in a branch.

mch wrote

Yes, exactly, I wish I could use the point in the keypad, instead of the
" , " coma. The point that is between "0" and "enter"
El 20/2/2016 10:36 p. m., "dxli [via LibreCAD]" <
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> not sure I got what you mean.
>
> when you type 1.2, and you would like to have it accepted as 1, 2 (as two
> numbers are needed for coordinates anyway).
>
> mch wrote
> When I use the keyboard to specify the (x,y) or @ (x,y) it would be
> easier if the point in the keypad was considered like the "coma" in the
> main pad. Is it possible?
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mch

Feb 21, 2016; 1:38pm

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Merci, thank you dxli,

I agree with you that there can be side effects... It wont be difficult to get used to the coma at the keyboard!

Mike Hayes

Feb 21, 2016; 7:39pm

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Wouldn't implementing this change mean you could no longer use the keypad to decimal coordinates? Doesn't the inconvenience of only being able to enter integers using the keypad outweigh the supposed benefit?

mch

Feb 21, 2016; 7:59pm

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Hi Mike,
Yes, I agree that's not a good option for the point/coma. I'm trying to find my marks after 14 years away from a cad... Can you help me with my "repeat command" question?

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Wouldn't implementing this change mean you could no longer use the keypad to decimal coordinates? Doesn't the inconvenience of only being able to enter integers using the keypad outweigh the supposed benefit?

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dxli

Feb 22, 2016; 3:10am

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consider:

@1.2 (no confusion, means @1, 2)
@1.2.2 (unclear, means @1, 2.2 or @1.2, 2)
1.2 (unclear, could mean 1,2 or 1.2
@1.2<0 ( means @1.2<0)

I remember someone suggested using of the space bar, seems to be good:

1 2 instead of 1,2

Mike Hayes wrote

Wouldn't implementing this change mean you could no longer use the keypad to decimal coordinates? Doesn't the inconvenience of only being able to enter integers using the keypad outweigh the supposed benefit?

ravas

Feb 22, 2016; 3:29am

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Another idea:
if the input is a single number (no comma is found),
then accept it as the X value, and prompt for a Y value.
In other words, Enter becomes the delimiter.

mch

Feb 22, 2016; 9:43am

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Things are getting better thanks to your help!

I still have two questions... (in fact three :)

1. How can a repeat the last command (from the command line) ... I type "o" for offset or "ch" for Bevel, I finish my offset (or Bevel) and then I remember I want to do again the same thing. Do I have to type "o" or "ch" again or there's a "same command" command?

2. How can I say for a line to go until "perpendicular to". I think I used the right button of the mouse before to have these options fast...

2016-02-21 14:38 GMT+01:00 mch [via LibreCAD] <[hidden email]>:

Merci, thank you dxli,

I agree with you that there can be side effects... It wont be difficult to get used to the coma at the keyboard!

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dxli

Feb 22, 2016; 3:57pm

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we do not have way to repeat the previous command yet.

do you mean you want to rotate a line to be perpendicular to an existing line?

I'm thinking about using "draw perpendicular line", and "Rotate", using the perpendicular point in the "draw" step as a target point:

0, given line a, to rotate line A to be perpendicular to line b;
1, from one end point A of a, which is not on line b, draw perpendicular line to b, and the the perpendicular projection of A is C;
2, rotate line a by rotation center A, and the other end point of a as the reference point; choose C as the target point

You can do "relative angle" also, which allows using of intersecting angle other than 90 degrees, and the relative angle can be against lines and circles.

TODO: support "draw perpendicular", "draw orthogonal", "draw relative angle" by ellipses.
TODO: fix "draw orthogonal" against circles

mch wrote

Things are getting better thanks to your help!
I still have two questions... (in fact three :)
1. How can a repeat the last command (from the command line) ... I type "o"
for offset or "ch" for Bevel, I finish my offset (or Bevel) and then I
remember I want to do again the same thing. Do I have to type "o" or "ch"
again or there's a "same command" command?

2. How can I say for a line to go until "perpendicular to". I think I used
the right button of the mouse before to have these options fast...

2016-02-21 14:38 GMT+01:00 mch [via LibreCAD] <
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> Merci, thank you dxli,
>
> I agree with you that there can be side effects... It wont be difficult to
> get used to the coma at the keyboard!
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ravas

Feb 22, 2016; 6:41pm

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Press the up arrow on your keyboard to access the last commands.
You might need to press Space or Ctrl+M first.

We have the Line->Tangent Orthogonal and Line->Orthogonal tools.
If those don't work, then please describe exactly what you want to accomplish.