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rk-list

original icons?

Hi,

since Debian removed QCad from their repositories [1], it seems that QCad 2
users now have to compile QCad themselves or switch to librecad. [2]

Unfortunately, librecad is currently unusable for me: All icons have
changed, and seem to have been mirrored(!), turned to extremely-ugly
neon-green(!) and then partly obfuscated. Is there a reason why you
did not use the original icons? QCad2 was released under GPL, and I did
not find any special license for the icons.

(Since the icons are *really* annoying, I will probably replace them by
the original icons before using/testing librecad, but I would prefer the
official librecad-version also gets usable icons...)

regards
Roland

[1] Unfortunately, Debian also deleted the (perfectly working) QCad 2
from Squeeze!! I of course understand that they removed it from Wheezy,
since Wheezy does not contain Qt3 anymore. But I will never understand why
they also removed it from *stable* (Squeeze), although it was perfectly
working, and so intentionally broke working installations.... *wtf?*
Such behaviour would be a good reason to use a different distribution...

[2] Btw, QCad 3 is *extremely slow* on older systems, and so it's no
alternative to QCad 2.

dxli

Re: original icons?

This has been discussed many times.

We are aware of some icon issues, and encourage our users to submit their own icons to be included.

Thanks

R. van Twisk

Re: original icons?

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In reply to this post by rk-list

Hello,

I can answer some of the questions.

On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:06 PM, "rk-list [via LibreCAD]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

since Debian removed QCad from their repositories [1], it seems that QCad 2
users now have to compile QCad themselves or switch to librecad. [2]

This was one of the reasons we started LibreCAD…

As QCad hasn't been updated for years and used the old Qt versions

we decided to port QCad to Qt4 and rename it.

Unfortunately, librecad is currently unusable for me: All icons have
changed, and seem to have been mirrored(!), turned to extremely-ugly
neon-green(!) and then partly obfuscated. Is there a reason why you
did not use the original icons? QCad2 was released under GPL, and I did
not find any special license for the icons.

The color was chosen so that we showed a unique color and some primary colors

where already used, green apparently not.

Color is also a matter of taste, however they shouldn't be obfuscated.

Additionally, the original icons where in low resolution pixmaps and with today's

standards they would show up to small, or scaled up and pixelated.

At the time the when this color schema was used and the icons where created by an

artist the LibeCAD community was relative small and we where already happy

that somebody volunteered for this task so we where already happy this was

done!

(Since the icons are *really* annoying, I will probably replace them by
the original icons before using/testing librecad, but I would prefer the
official librecad-version also gets usable icons…)

We have on our TODO to have the icons be replaced using theming supports,

unfortunately we currently have other priorities but we welcome any people

that want to take up this task.

Ries

regards
Roland

[1] Unfortunately, Debian also deleted the (perfectly working) QCad 2
from Squeeze!! I of course understand that they removed it from Wheezy,
since Wheezy does not contain Qt3 anymore. But I will never understand why
they also removed it from *stable* (Squeeze), although it was perfectly
working, and so intentionally broke working installations.... *wtf?*
Such behaviour would be a good reason to use a different distribution...

[2] Btw, QCad 3 is *extremely slow* on older systems, and so it's no
alternative to QCad 2.

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Re: original icons?

In reply to this post by rk-list

> [1] Unfortunately, Debian also deleted the (perfectly working) QCad 2
> from Squeeze!! I of course understand that they removed it from Wheezy,
> since Wheezy does not contain Qt3 anymore. But I will never understand why
> they also removed it from *stable* (Squeeze), although it was perfectly
> working, and so intentionally broke working installations.... *wtf?*
> Such behaviour would be a good reason to use a different distribution...

Debian wasn't legally allowed to distribute QCad anymore, while the
source code was GPL-2, the documentation (and the icons for all we can
tell) are not. The author requested that we respect his copyright, so
they were removed.

More info:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2011/10/msg00009.html
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qcad/+bug/954994

You're right, it was removed from Wheezy because there are no more QT3
libraries.

Regarding icons, I think LibreCAD would like to be "skinable" with
users contributing icons. However, it's a lower priority for the core
developers although they'd accept patches.

~Scott